Auburn coordinator ages when hired

For Sociological analysis, refer to JCMac’s eventual comment below.

73 Responses to “Auburn coordinator ages when hired”

  1. Spencer Lee Says:

    I see Wayne Hall every Sunday…he finished college in 72, so he’s got to be right at 62. Should Ellis Johnson decide to retire some years hence we won’t have to look far for his replacement. And we wouldn’t have to a nickel for relocation expense.

    Now for OC…what can I say? At this rate we’ll have it like the old days and have the QB be player/coach. Again, we would save some cash….in this case the entire salary since NCAA rules prohibit that kind of thing.

  2. Thomas (formerly the Huntsville one, now the Charleston, West Virginia one) Says:

    Speaking of sociology, anyone else here the news Cam is back at AU working toward a Sociology degree!

    Strong work, Cam! Strong work!

  3. tigertracker Says:

    alright, now someone overlay a graph of our scoring offense and scoring defense over that span just for giggles.

  4. Auburn Fish Says:

    I am hearing a lot of talk about Oregon pursuing Gus. Please tell me that would not EVER happen. I’m not sure if I can take a hit in the gut like that!

  5. Walt Says:

    I very, very, very seriously doubt Gustav would leave Auburn for Oregon. Especially after putting this staff together like this.

  6. JCMac (SF) (ABD) Says:

    So I have been trying to figure this out for the last two days. I’ve got nothing…. I mean younger trendier offense and old hard nosed defense is the only thing I can think of…

  7. Thomas (formerly the Huntsville one, now the Charleston, West Virginia one) Says:

    Hard loss tonight… but, I do like the direction basketball is heading at AU!

  8. Spencer Lee Says:

    JCMac….I got faith in you bro. You will put that keen analytical mind to work on these graphs and uncover a pearl of wisdom to share with your “Family.” I’ll wait patiently here in dreary/chilly B’ham for your dispensation. :)

  9. JCMac (SF) (ABD) Says:

    lol… I don’t think I have enough data points for conclusions… enjoy the sleet..

  10. Big Swoll Says:

    Oregon is in a tight spot now it seems. The chipster is leaving with some NCAA campus sleuthing likely so not sure how “hot” Oregon’s HC seat is. Someone will prolly get a lot of $ but does Team Nike(tm) have the juice to pull a Saban, Miles or Spurrier? A Meyer or a Sumlin?
    How do yall see the first year improvements playing out on the field offensively? Seems as though there is some serious talent already there and that the incoming recruits could/should have the team in every game to a degree eh? With the personnel, coaches and players get in sync, I don’t see any reason the Tigers couldn’t/shouldn’t score 22+ points a game next season. And imo anything over 4 TDs and 1FG should pretty much assure a victory in a Div 1 game so long as the defense can hold it together.

  11. JCMac (SF) (ABD) Says:

    Big Swoll, I think it really all depends on our quarterback. With moderately good quarterback play I could see a nine win season with the talent we have. Without good quarterback play we might be experiencing possibly a six win season.

    I think we make a bowl next year, I would say either New Year’s Day or New Year’s Eve.

    weagle, weagle

  12. Big Swoll Says:

    In that case, who do yall give the nod to start under center? Whos the backup? DC should help jazz up the QB situation for certain.

  13. Spencer Lee Says:

    For Center I have only heard Dismukes…I would be delighted to see someone come in and either push him to make him better or beat him out. There is a sense of complacentcy that can come from being the best of any group..even on a bad team…which can lead to flat out laziness b/c you can’t see anyone else taking your spot. Perhaps with the new Offense and blocking techniques it calls for he (and the rest of the group) can step up.

  14. Walt Says:

    Oregon will likely hire their OC as HC. I think that’s what Kelly wanted. As for our offense, I see a big improvement right off the bat. I think the QBs will fit in well, and a good bit of the offense already knows Gustav the Mad Scientist of Football’s system.

  15. JCMac (SF) (ABD) Says:

    I think Gus has a favorite…. It’s Frazier… I have to wonder how much that may change during the Spring…. I worry we will be trying to answer your question come WSU.

  16. Nick Says:

    I assumed Frazier was the favorite, too. But I wondered why, (when we were already signing J Johnson), he signed Nick Marshall? Unless to play CB?

  17. Walt Says:

    Marshall will get a shot at QB. And he may win the job. But I think you start out with Wallace leading, still.

  18. Big Swoll Says:

    Frazier seems to me the kind of kid that if should really stick around. May take all 5yrs to get it done, but if he sticks around and continues to mature and pay dues he could have a special Sr year. Very serious about that. Mosley looks like the kind of 3rd or 4th string option you have and just hope he comes in hot because he can get it done. Occasionally. Wallace seems like the leading candidate and new recruits have yet to prove themselves but I still say that even if it’s an off the bench, dual role, filling in or Sr. leadership all the way….. if Frazier sticks around for his full eligibility, Im guessing he will do something special, just maybe not right away but who knows?

  19. JCMac (SF) (ABD) Says:

    Mosely left the team… Thus the need for our new juco.

  20. Big Swoll Says:

    I see. Best wishes to him and his and thanks for the service during a difficult period.

  21. Spencer Lee Says:

    For what it’s worth here’s my 2 cents. Frazier lit it up in H.S. with the same spread offense that Malzhan uses. But as a true Freshman in 2011 when pressed into service he seemed lost far too often and almost completely one dementional. Maybe he torched defenses in H.S. simply because he was a superior athlete v. the other players on the field and now that he’s in college ball the competition has picked up (along with the speed of the game) and made things very tough for him.

    I liked the attitude, leadership and fire that Wallace brought to the job – even though he was a “3 star” recruit, he brought as much to the table as the “5 star” Frazier. It’s hard to hold much against anyone under Center last year…the O line wasn’t up to the job and at WR we were still left with one truly dependable option. At least we were solid @ RB and TE.

    Enter the 2013 season and the battle is on…I really doubt anyone (Marshall, Johnson, et al) would be able to come in and so fully grasp the offense that they become THE starter. Which leads to my next concern…ANOTHER rotating QB situation where we have a “running” QB and another that’s more adept at actually throwing a forward pass. When we have that we are guaranteed a large number of empty possessions b/c that screams “predictability.” And “predictable offense” in the SEC can be translated to “4th and long.”

    So the best case scenario I can conjure up is Marshall happily accepting a Corner or Safety position (which frankly we need based on his superior athleticism AND the fact we’ll be running a 4-2-5); Johnson taking a Redshirt; either Wallace blossoming into a top tier SEC QB…or Frazier getting back to H.S. production, and the O line doing a solid job of run and pass blocking.

    I’m hopeful but we have a lot of questions and not as many answers…but I like who we will have on the sidelines to try and figure all this out AND the guys beside him to coach up their guys. Ought to be a fun ride.

  22. Music City Tiger Says:

    My biggest concern is how our new WR coach develop his players. Like the previous staff, he is more a recruiter than a coach, or so it seems.

  23. Spencer Lee Says:

    Good point MCT….very good point. I don’t have much info on his WR coaching background.

  24. Spencer Lee Says:

    OK, it’s been three days…….I’m breaking out the crickets (and I’m not talking about the back up group Waylon Jennings was in)……………………… [here comes a tumbleweed blowing across your computer screen - left to right]…………………………………………… [coyote howls in the distance]…………………… [bull frog joins the crickets' chorus]………………………..[some Bammer posts a vitriolic rant on al.com.....then beats his chest and takes a swig from a nearby flask]……………………………………….. [Harvey Updyke fires his 258th lawyer and gets a continuance]…………………………………………….. [let's hear from you guys so we can leave this sordid scene] :)

  25. Walt Says:

    ….somewhere today, there is silence. Thousands upon thousands of souls are wandering through their day, lost. They are uncertain about the future. That voice that’s been in their head for years has been silenced. Who will provide their leadership? Who will provide their motivation and justification for vitriol and hate?

    You see… Finebaum is off the air.

  26. T-Dog Says:

    Hey, anyone into running and doing the Finish on the 50 5k (or 10k or marathon if you’re a crazy bastard) on April 27? Some old college buddies and I are going to do it, then finish up at the Bar Formerly Known as Fink’s (aka Quixotes…I think now) for a cold one!

    http://www.runauburn.com/

  27. Spencer Lee Says:

    Point VERY well taken Walt…………..if only that show would go away forever. Alas, we live in a fallen world… :)

    T-Dog I’m into running but haven’t heard of this event. I’ll have to look into it. Thanks for the post (and for the record I’m one of the aforementioned crazy #$%&%#’s) hehehe

  28. T-Dog Says:

    I laughed when people were like “Maybe Sirius/XM will pick him up” Umm…no. The rest of the country doesn’t want to hear the Bammer Jerry Springer Radio Show.

    Come on Spence! I’m just getting back into it after the baby, so I did my first one since then last week and have few more lined up before this one. I want to collapse on the 50!! LOL! I’m really doing it for the shirt…and the beer. I’m a sucker for shirts and beers!

  29. Spencer Lee Says:

    I have a family reunion that same day – 3 hours away. [translation: there may be a "sure you can do that" - but that course of action would have "consequences"]. Otherwise I would be all over this (and I’d give you my beer) :)

  30. Spencer Lee Says:

    Keep me – and the rest of the Auburner Family – posted on upcoming events though T-Dog! (and congrats on getting back into it) :)

  31. Walt Says:

    I’m in for the race. Assuming I don’t have drill or some other ROTC requirement that day. I’ll probably try to get my cadets to do it with me, as well. Now the only question is 10k or 1/2 marathon? I’ve never done a 1/2 marathon before. Would definitely have to work to get into shape for THAT.

  32. Spencer Lee Says:

    C’mon Walt…I ran my first 1/2 marathon in 2009 as a 42 year old and I didn’t train a lick. The previous “distance” running I did before that was in 1986. All you have to do is commit yourself to run for 2 1/2 hours straight – that’s it. Well, that and wear 2 pairs of socks….that helped me. :)

  33. Walt Says:

    I would do it wearing Vibram Five Fingers. So… no socks, lol. And I’d definitely have to get my feet prepared for that. I like the idea, though. Especially on a good spring Auburn morning.

  34. T-Dog Says:

    Wow…you guys are crazy…impressive, but crazy!! I’d like to train for a half, but it would take a bit longer than April I believe. I might be able to do the 10k. I’ll make that a goal. :)

  35. Lisa Says:

    I’ll mention it to my better half. He’s run a few 1/2 marathons, 5Ks & 10Ks. Running isn’t for me; I’m more of a gym rat (XFit, body pump, pilates) since I like to workout at 5AM.

  36. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    I would have been interested in the 5k, but I am doing a Mud Run in Nashville the weekend of May 4th. Getting two weekends off back to back to go running might result in … as Spencer put it … some consequences.

  37. Walt Says:

    10k is actually a pretty easy thing to train up to and isn’t that hard. I did a D-Day run at Currahee in Toccoa, GA last summer. THAT was a rough 10k, but tons of fun. Unfortunately with my current job I’m out of town on the 4th of July, so I won’t get to run the Peachtree for a while. I may end up just doing the 10k, but I’d really like to get in shape to do the half marathon.

  38. Jason Says:

    Auburn fans are the most loyal to their school:

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2013/01/22/discover-calls-sec-fans-most-loyal-in-college-football/

    Part of the criteria was being loyal even during bad years, which is probably why one particular other school with rabid fans didn’t even show up in the top five.

  39. Spencer Lee Says:

    MCT, I think I can guess what those consequences might entail. lol

    Walt, I’ve seen those “five finger” shoes…seems bizzare to me – as in where is your support? At my age I need all the support I can get.

    If ya’ll want crazy, check out those nut jobs that do that Sahara Ultramarathon – 151 miles across the Sahara in 5 days…with a pack. A very good friend of mine actually DID this. I’ll spare you his description….let’s just say it was “challenging.”
    :)

    http://www.saharamarathon.co.uk/

    Jason, I’ll go check your link…

  40. Walt Says:

    Spencer, one of my cadets is an ultramarathon runner. That stuff blows my mind. He’s the only person I know whose split times get FASTER with every lap on a 2 mile PT test. Everyone else gets slower with each lap or stays about the same. One week he ran an ultramarathon and then came in and maxed a PT test a few days later. That type of person is unreal, to me. I’m just hoping I can get myself in shape enough to do a half.

  41. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    Spencer, just one word for that link – Insanity!

  42. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    Here is a link which captures more insane races – http://www.ultramarathonrunning.com/races/index.html

  43. Spencer Lee Says:

    Wow……..MCT, I would surely perish if I tried some of those….the distances are mind boggling enough – but a 48 hour run? Whoa!!!

  44. Spencer Lee Says:

    Walt, tip of the cap to your freakish buddy. :)

  45. Bob Loblaw Says:

    Here’s a goal for you runners:

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/why-we-compete/2007/04/curiosity_1.html?hpid=topnews/

    (article is a few years old, but does a good job of describing the Barkley)

  46. Big Swoll Says:

    Jason, what a cool stat and link, thanks for the post! I honestly would have thought either Nebraska because they have a whole state on virtual lock down and a fervent, national fan base would have ranked #1 but LOOGOUT!!!!! Hurr come Aubie……… Guess it just shows that it took the Cow-iest of the Cow Colleges to show the city slickers how you stay true and ride with some loyalty for your squad.

  47. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    Big Swoll, I was just reading about the Barkley, apparently the entry to that Ultramarathon is secret. You need to know someone who has done it before to get a chance of entering. :D

  48. Big Swoll Says:

    Hmmmm I meant the AU #1 in fan loyalty link but that race looks intense.

  49. Music City Tiger Says:

    I was responding to your first comment. :)

  50. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    Mark, your tweet about snake oils was awesome. I am surprised people are buying into that crap!

  51. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130129/the-strange-lab-that-lured-numerous-athletes/#all

  52. Walt Says:

    As I’m not on Twitter, I’m curious about the tweet being mentioned. Also… what an amazing group of visitors we have coming in, this weekend. Hopefully we can swing a bunch of them.

  53. mark Says:

    Before the NC game, I remember the press having a few items about how Saban had the hotel block ESPN from the Bama player’s rooms.. this was framed as one of the many ways Saban runs a tight ship.

    Though, it turns out that the players spent their time hanging out with some shady former steroid dealers / strippers in their hotel room and listened to them pitch snake oil.

    I guess it didn’t matter, since they killed ND.. but I found it funny anyways.

  54. Spencer Lee Says:

    MCT, just read the SI story you linked. Interesting read. Sorry to see the great Heath Evans was a client. I admire him big time…at least he essentially qualified his use to some extent.

  55. Spencer Lee Says:

    The UAT players could have all worn matching pink ankle bracelets and a 20 pound pack and it wouldn’t have mattered against that pitiful excuse for an opponent.

  56. Walt Says:

    I think the UAT story is about the 20*12* BCS title game, i.e. the LSU game.

  57. Spencer Lee Says:

    Indeed it was Walt…and as ill prepared as that LSU team was the same analogy holds true.

  58. Mark Says:

    2012, 2013, whatever… Bama needs to stop going to so many NC games.

  59. Music City Tiger (Formerly Michiana Tiger) Says:

    well said Mark! :)

  60. Big Swoll Says:

    What sort or wrestling/judo/grappling or boxing activities are available on the plains, team or club these days?

  61. Spencer Lee Says:

    Geez Big Swoll – none of that is available. Wrestling (the type without masks, pyrotecnics, and colorful “managers”) was a fabulously successful program at AU but was a Title IX casualty over 30 years ago. Judo would likely be available off campus. Grappling might be something you’d see 2 frat boys doing outside the Supper Club late on a Saturday night. Boxing I don’t even know you can find off campus. There is a boxing gym / training facility in Mgy but it’s in a part of town where you would need a quick draw more than you’d need a quick jab.

    You’re still out there in the Northwest…if this question is directed at what we could get the players to do to improve their physicality, then I get that!

  62. Walt Says:

    From what I’ve been reading, the S&C program under Coach Russell has been BRUTAL so far this winter. As for Big Swoll’s question… there are some of those things available in club form. Or at least I believe there’s still a club wrestling team (I could be mistaken, though). As for the others, I’m not real sure.

  63. Big Swoll Says:

    Yup, Im in the PacNorWest. I have had professional competition before and am just beginning an aprox. 10 week fight camp to prepare for bouts later this year. Would be nice to know that there are options should I ever make it down to The Plains. Btw Spencer Lee, is Mgy Montgomery? Didnt know it was real wild there but I guess most everyplace in the South has at least one “try to avoid” side of town. And yes, with the proper training and guidance, I think our boys COULD get a lot of benefit, both on the field and off, out of the right fit with a martial arts instructor :)

  64. Walt Says:

    Big Swoll, there are definitely bad parts to Montgomery. Maxwell AFB is one of the only places I would consider violating the law of not having a weapon on a military base. Not because Maxwell is bad, but because of the area of Montgomery that it’s in and you have to go through to get there.

  65. Spencer Lee Says:

    Well said Walt….and good luck on your prep Big Swoll!

  66. T-Dog Says:

    Re: Montgomery, one word…Chisholm….shudder….

  67. Spencer Lee Says:

    lol T-Dog!!! The place I was referring to is near the accurately named High Street. :)

  68. Walt Says:

    Toomer’s Oaks to be removed before fall. Last rolling at A-Day. I wish I could save a good, thick branch and beat Harvey Updyke (and every idiot who proudly had their picture taken with him) senseless with it.

    http://wireeagle.auburn.edu/news/4891

  69. Big Swoll Says:

    Thanks Spencer Lee!

  70. Tdog Says:

    The hubs and I are going to try to make Aday/Toomers rolling….celebrate some good memories, she’d a tear or two and have a few beers. Sad, sad day…makes me want to drop kick a Bammer in the mouth…

  71. Jason Says:

    Hopefully this isn’t a touchy subject any more but given the transpired over the last decade I’m always cautious bringing up the subject of the Board of Trustees. Anyone know the two men nominated to be on the Board? Everything I’ve turned up through Google has been positive and I don’t see any connections to the previous closely knit group that was so controversial. Maybe we will have a Board that brings positive attention to Auburn. At most schools the majority of the students and alumni can’t even name anyone on their equivalent of the Board of Trustees since they go about their task with little fuss.

  72. Spencer Lee Says:

    First of all a big “You’re welcome” to you Big Swoll.

    Jason I don’t know a thing about the 2 new BOT guys…all I do know was the departing Sam Ginn is one of the most successful business people to ever graduate from AU and was a pivotal player in the development of the cell phone industry. He was also extremely generous to the school…so essentially he was Lowder without the side effects. lol

    Frankly I think that era is over and we will develop the type of BOT situation like most other schools have where the group goes about the business of helping guide the school through the challenges of the day………oh yeah, and approve annual tuition hikes like every other college’s BOT do.

  73. Thomas (formerly the Huntsville one, now the Charleston, West Virginia one) Says:

    I am going to try and get there for it… gonna call in all my favors and get 4 days… I hope!

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