On a personal level I hated to see it. The times I was able to meet personally with Polowski he was a great guy with a heart for special needs kids. But this is a business and the ledger had too many L’s and not enough W’s.
Hated the softball coach going even more since I used to work for her about 25 years ago and her husband played college ball with my brother…but again, it’s a business at the end of the day.
Both will land on their feet somewhere – just sorry it didn’t work out long term for Polowski. At least Coach Deese had a long run @ AU as the inagural softball coach (circa 1995 – 2013).
Before I hit the “Submit” button, 66% of today’s posters had doctorate degrees.. Spencer, with his mere masters brought down the average… and I’m bringing it down even more with this post. 50% ain’t too bad though.
And thanks for the lunch Thomas.. I hope you can find an excuse to make it down to Huntsville again sometime… or better yet, we both find excuses to make it down to Auburn for a game.
66%? That means I dissed Thomas (formerly of many places)…dude I assumed since you were not completely done with school then you didn’t have a doctorate. My bad…
And yes, it IS good to be one of the dumb (former) jocks around here. I always did like hanging out with smarter kids in school…in hopes osmosis would manifest itself in terms of brain power moving from them to me by just being near them. :)
And JCMac, the Auburner already WAS the highest educated blog/forum in the universe. We’ve got experts in numerous fields AND virtually everybody on here could draw up X’s and O’s if they were asked to. :)
Im here with the wife, baby and fam. They were here visiting and getting acquainted with my Mama and Papa but now we are together here where we will spend the summer and I will, Lord willing, finish the weight cut and set up some fights. But my return date on the ol ticket will get me back just after my bday and just in time for college football kick off! Although I have been known here to get up at about 3am Sunday morning to catch the action :)
So, it seems the Copy Cats…errr…Clemson now has a new video promoting the “Clemson Family” in regard to their football program. Seriously, why don’t they just get a new QB called Sam Mewton and call it a day, k? UGH!!
And yes, I know we don’t OWN the world “family” but it’s Clemson. I mean, you see it too, right!?!?!?!? It’s not just a kawinky dink…right… ;)
I hate Clemson.
1. The Cocained-out mascot they have… (It belongs in Charles Manson’s nightmares)
2. Orange and Purple? Purple? (Just doesn’t fit, it’s like mixing Sunny D and Purple Drink)
3. Auburn with a lake. (Auburn is perfect the way it is, so any addition, including a lake would be a downgrade)
4. They are our genetic clone. (yet it appears they were taken out of the test tube a few months too early)
5. They are like that little brother that mimics everything the older brother does, but without understanding or purpose. (oh, you want to play football too, why? oh, so it just looks life fun to you? son this is ingrained into our culture, being, and everlasting soul… until you get that, Clemson, you will be nothing but a hack.
p.s. no love fore Calhouns? It is the only place where I would give the beer, salad, atmosphere, and steak a 9/10 or above.
JCMac, went to Calhouns in 1992 – your description is spot on!
T-Dog, have not seen the latest attempt by Clemson to be like their secret crush, but the Sam Mewton thing had me litterally biting my lip to keep from laughing loud enough to wake the kids….classic! :)
Ugh…Slimebaum and the ESPN cronies together on Gameday crushing on Saban makes me puke in my mouth a little….I think that’s worse than the Rockabilly Gameday music intro….maybe. :)
I am also mad that he will be in my state. While I’m not there currently, I’ve claimed NC as mine since we will retire there one day, or when we win the lottery I’m building a mountain fortress there. Maybe I’ll have enough money to make him leave? :)
As for Slimebaum to Charlotte, I’d be delighted if he went there to be on a local only show….no such luck. As for the SEC signing off the rights to ESPN. No surprise there. The 800 pound gorilla of sports broadcasting getting the rights of the 800 pound gorilla of college athletics.
The not-so-hidden addendum behind those rights is that the current deal is only good while the conference is in its current form. I doubt we’ll see the full completion of this TV deal. Before then, the SEC will have expanded, or the major conferences will break away from the NCAA or form a new top division, conference make-up may be contracted back closer to the older forms, and they’ll renegotiate rights. However, it’ll probably still be an ESPN deal, unless some of these other cable sports channels starting up now can gain enough money and influence by then.
Thanks for the info Lisa. Is it just me or do other schools’ run ins and subsequent penalties from the NCAA come out of nowhere, while RUMORS of NCAA trouble for AU are shouted from the mountaintops for months on end and when they die later from accute lack of oxygen (and also loss of legs) there’s not a peep.
Impermissable benefits to a recruit. A booster secured a vehicle for the recruit, gave him a VISA gift card and offered him $6000 if he would not visit any other school. Funny that the article NEVER mentioned that the Cam Newton “pay for play” conversation happened at Miss St.
…and that Asst. Coach quit abruptly prior to the 2012 season. The NCAA hit him with a 1 year “show cause” order – which means if an NCAA school sought to hire him over the next 12 months they would have to justify it through the NCAA for it to be permitted.
Rediculous nature-hater updyke has a foreign national wife eh? Given his unstable and volatile behavior, one might wonder how safe she or their shared children are in their home environment. Not trying to pry or disparage people’s personal lives, but being as many women in these positions are very vulnerable legally, and taking into consideration the individual himself, it’s no stretch of logic to conclude that life could be very unpleasant for her.
From Asia I belive. Again, not trying to jump to conclusions or put anyone down, maybe he’s an ok guy outside of his football side. But foreign national women are in a very legally vulnerable position. So to be honest, that guy seems like the kind of person I really wouldn’t want someone I cared about to……. let’s just say I might be highly uncomfortable if someone I cared about was at his legal mercy.
Totally random, but I’m pumped for next week. The hubs and I will be spending our anniversary in ol AU. We were married there and all, so were leaving the boy with grandma, popping into our old fave dinner date place (Provinos) then taking a bottle of wine back to the b&b. then lunch Saturday, prob at Niffers. Yay! Hopefully it won’t be hot as balls so we can walk around campus without heat exhaustion ;)
Yep, John is still running it and they still have the rolls and salad. We thought about Ma Fia’s which we also love and it’s a bit more fancy, but we have a lot of good memories with ol’ Provino’s. When we were dating, the hubs would drive down from B’ham when I got off work from Ware’s in the mall (ooold mall) and we’d go up to Provino’s when it was still in it’s old location. We’d be the only people in there while the staff would close down. Fantastic memories. And garlic balls. Oh yeah.
I have never heard them referred to as garlic balls. It’s as good a name as any. I could sit and eat just those. And I make sure to sop up every bit of the buttery/garlicy goodness with the roll that I can. I always have to have my own bowl, because I have to double-dip with those. Nothing goes to waste!
I can’t believe I’m going to do this, but I have to give praise to Jay Jacobs. The hires yesterday for softball and baseball were HUGE. Hiring Clint Myers away from Arizona State, where he’s been to the college world series 7 out of the last 8 years and won it twice, and Sonny Golloway from Oklahoma, where he’s been to numerous super-regionals and a college world series, were both home runs. Baseball/softball pun intended. War Eagle, and welcome to the family!
Walt – couldn’t agree more on the baseball and softball hires. I’ve known the previous softball coach for nearly 25 years (and her husband played college ball w/ my brother) so I was sorry to see her go but wow, we hit the jackpot there! Same with baseball and Galloway. I like Paws as a guy but we seemed stuck in mediocrity apart from a kick @ss year in 2010 when we nearly got to Omaha.
Couldn’t be happier with both pick ups. Now to really get the Jay Jacobs love fest going, he met with a very successful AU alum recently. Look for an announcement this Friday from the College of Business. :)
Admitedly, Im not the most knowledgeable individual regarding the War Eagle bb/sb machines however:
A: These do appear to be smart, aggressive hires and……..
B: Earlier in the season I was really impressed with #21, any word on how his season turned out from the Auburner crowds perspective?
Just checked his stats…NOT bad numbers! Opponents only hit .216 v. him for the year. THAT will work! Alaso had better than a 2:1 strikeout to walk ratio. He was 4-2 on the year. Not sure how they used him (middle relief, set up man, spot starter, etc…) but seems like we could have gotten more use out of him. Who knows maybe he got hurt…
Does this mean Lowder’s name get’s chipped off the building? That would be a happy day. :) And way to go Spence!
Our weekend in AU was fantastic. The Crenshaw B&B was super and will def be where we stay from now on. Provinos, was, oh, it was garlic-ball tastic. I loved every second. The next day we took in some downtown time then nommed on some corn nuggets at Niffer’s before heading home. I have to say though, it’s still so weird to see the corner treeless…so open and empty. I hate it.
Awesome news about the big donation. Great to see THE Spencer Lee rubbing shoulders with the Auburn big wigs!
Slightly awesome news – finished my 10K mud run and I did not die!! Finished it in just over 2 hrs (my goal was 2 hrs). Not bad for a guy who was completely out of shape at the start of this year. Was good to see that one entire section of the activities was managed by the local Auburn University Young Alumni Club.
Many thanks Mark, T-Dog and MCT! As a trivial side note my quotes (and those of my dear friend – and 3 time SEC champion AU footballer Anthony Brown) were in the write up b/c we’re in the same Sunday School class as the writer (Joe McAdory). :) We sat right next to him. There will also be a video posted on the Shareholder Magazine from Joe’s interview with Anthony. I shot that on Joe’s i-Pad. [that assumes the Shareholder editor can live with the amatuerish quality of my video....lol]
As for the 10k Mud Run – WAY. TO . GO. MCT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think that is awesome! Proud of you bro!
Finally, Walt’s take is accurate. The “Lowder” Business Building is named for Ed & Catherine Lowder. Ed was a wierd bird in some ways but built 2 of Alabama’s largest corporations (Alfa Insurance & Colonial Bank) out of a spare room in his house. Nothing short of remarkable when you think about it.
Finally I’m stuck here in Tloosa today and tomorrow. Someome shoot me please….
Well, apparently either my clip was not of sufficient quality, the audio didn’t come through, or an executive decision was made to put the clip of Miss Auburn (Tara Jones) on the page for “marketing” purposes. :)
I’ve got a question for those wanting to exercise their brain a bit. Can you think of a way to objectively (or at least semi-objectively) measure the strength of a rivalry between two football programs? My initial thought was number of games played but we’ve played Florida more than we’ve played Alabama and no one would put the Florida rivalry ahead of the one with Alabama. All other measures I can come up with, closeness in total points scored, closeness in win-loss records, etc all put Auburn-Georgia ahead of Auburn-Alabama.
Amount of media coverage is a possibility but it’s difficult to measure and often ignores rivalries that while strong, don’t affect the national picture.
Any ideas? Something that could be calculated by software or at the very least produce ballpark ranges that could then be tweaked by subjective opinion?
Sorry Jason. I can’t think of anything emperical. You can’t necessarily base it on proximity (e.g., Duke v. UNC) because Notre Dame and USC (the western version) have been rivals for ages and are 2 time zones apart.
You could losely base it on the propensity for a given fan base to have (insert rival school’s name here) jokes as well as how many different ones are told.
And some rivalries seem to brew into fruition in short order (e.g., AU/LSU – who prior to 1992 virtually never played each other), but other rivalries fizzle out due to sheer competitive imbalance.
You can’t even use unsportsmanlike penalties per game b/c some bitter rivals play extrmemely hard but very clean (case in point AU / UAT).
Good luck with this…..I’ll be curious on what you find out.
Boo…oh well, I could hope. At least the new engineering facility makes the ol’ Lowder Building look like the ghetto. Man, that new complex is stunning!!
Jason, it’s not scientific, but if you found any story on al.com and said “Auburn is better than Alabama, Georgia and Florida” you could probably scientifically see the hatred in the number of Bammer posts. They wouldn’t be pretty, or grammatically correct in any form, but you’d get a number. :)
You could qualitatively do it, I believe, through interviews. But personally I would use a mixed method design that incorporated surveys too.
You could ask questions like “how often in an average week, during the offseason, do you think about your team beating (the rival in question)?”– or instead for recall purposes you could ask the participant how many times in the previous week.
Unfortunately, you would need a sample of around 5,000 people per rivalry to be somewhat certain about your results.
You could also measure media fixation as a proxy variable. You could count the minutes in a newscast dedicated to the rivalry in each town the week preceding the rivalry for each rivalry–or the count of the number of news articles from the largest selling newspaper in the area.
If you do this let me know and we can test if there is a relationship between rivalry intensity and poverty, education, political engagement, and religion. That would be a fun article to write.
There are also other variables…. Take the Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry. While the Longhorns eagerly awaited the Red River Rivalry, the contest that meant the most to both the Sooners and the Cornhuskers was their annual tilt. It’s a memory now, but it means so much to them that it’s being revived. Technically it’s no longer a “rivalry” but the intensity is such that they are willing to cross conference lines and in the cause of OU, risk the ire of the conference monetary heavyweight residing in Austin.
While we’re kicking around the “rivalry” topic – my (non-scientific) supposition has long been that rivalries sprout up in SEC country virtually overnight. AU/LSU went from “teams that never played each other” to “blood fued” in nothing flat. Also, when Tubs came over to AU from Ole Siss we immediately picked up vitriol from the spurned fan base AND his former rival SIMULTANEOUSLY.
Maybe I’m thinking too myopically but I just don’t see off the rails derisiveness in other parts of the country in that short of a period. Any comments ladies and/or gents?
You are thinking about it scientifically. But I think it would come back to how you define rivalry.
I would argue that there is a distinct difference between grudge matches that last 10 years or less and an actual rivalry.
So how would we define rivalry?
How long does it have to be going to be a rivalry?
If there is a break, how long?
Is it confined to a certain sport?
Spencer, I understand exactly what you are saying. Is there something different about the context of the SEC or the Deep SEC (if you know what I mean)?
This is actually not too different than the question I asked in my dissertation, believe it or not. I asked if there is something different about the context of drug markets as it comes to firearm lethality. Do the rules work differently in these locations in other words?
My opinion would be yes there is something different about the SEC. There is something about this culture, this region, that makes the impact of college sports resonate more to the fan. That is where I stand on that as a completely biased observer.
There was a time when college football took on an “opiate” of the Southern masses type quality for a number of convergent reasons: 1) the South in general was looked down upon by a lot of folks in other parts of the country – for a host of reasons…some partially substantiated – some just due to ignorance on their part; 2) there were no pro sports in the South prior to the 60′s so we tended to not relate to pro sports like other parts of the country did; 3) given factor # 10 was in play many in the South developed a complex about our image; 4) anything that we could point to as a source of excellence – if not superiority – relative to the rest of the country was a big deal to us; 5) the physical qualities that lent themselves to success on the gridiron translated well in the agrarian South, which served as further encouragement for us to focus on the sport; and 6) economically the South of multiple generations ago was a consistent also-ran in terms of places in the US that really had their act together. Mix all this together and you had a near perfectly myopic view of the sports world and the South’s place at the head of it. Since we kicked tail in the only game that mattered we felt a distinct sense of enduring pride.
Now fast forward to the mid 80′s on and a LOT of those former factors are gone. Really only 1, 4 and 5 are still in play to a large degree. We still thump our collective chest at 7 national titles in a row from the SEC but we’ve also become a more diverse (and somewhat more distracted) people group. And economically we’re the place to go for opportunities. Still it makes for interesting history.
I agree on all counts Spencer. I do think your list can be added to, but what you have are very plausible and acceptable.
As a note living outside the south I know first hand the south is looked down. There are some that even will not travel to or through the south because of their misguided fears. All of that is even further multiplied for the deep south.
No question about that Memphis Mac. I’ve dealt professionally with people from every state in the country and the ones that will shoot straight with me will tell me how the South is commonly perceived – but also will follow that up by distancing themselves from that type of blanket indictment. I suppose the ones that harbor epic levels of disdain towards the Deep South would either figure I’m not worth their time to discuss the matter or wouldn’t want to come across as that hateful.
On the flip side, these same people will confess there are some aspects of our part of the country that are flat out impressive – weather, athletics, hospitality and good looking women. To which I say – don’t hate us because we’re beautiful! :)
There are obviously unique societal ails which afflict the South. There are also problematic phenomenon which the South shares with the rest of the nation. For a variety of reasons, some imposed, some self-imposed, these problems are exacerbated to a higher level.
The South also holds distinct, unique advantages and desirable qualities. Imo these extreme conditions contribute to an extreme landscape in many regards. I feel it should be no surprise that something that elicits such a passion (sports) would be “taken to another level” here. I also agree with much of which my distinguished Auburner brethren have expressed here.
I also feel that the lack of media focus on the South and Midwest contributes to the heightened level of sports in general and football in specific. From the jump, these regions have less “going on” than others so sports become a focus simply out of necessity for activity (although in our modern times this is becoming more of a perception than a reality). Add to that the chip on the shoulder due to slights, disrespect and outright hostility the Souts experiences through mainstream, mas media and you have some people who are ready to Rollin the gridiron and
Roll on the gridiron and prove their worth when and where they get the chance at a fair fight.
Stupid two posts…….. Stupid apple iPad. I got this thing for my wife because of the lack of virus attacks for Mac products…… But in may ways, they are inferior products…….
Hey Double M…. I’m actually looking into dropping out of the whole Microsoft/Mac scene altogether with Linux. It will require to re/learn somethings but it basically offers the best of those two systems plus a lot of other positives without many of their negatives.
Spencer Lee & Co. Did yall happen to catch that “Team Nike”(tm) out Oregon way got away with whatever self-imposed slap on the wrist they doled out for themselves. The NCAA infractions committee is constantly reaching down our necks and ESPN waits with baited breath (when they are not fanning the flames of Tiger hatred) but I guess the quakes get all the passes they want. From what I understand, the UW faithful are furious……
Not sure about iPad specific OS’ but a few years ago an associate set up his pc so that its OS looked and operated just like a Mac. When snooty people he was working with would say things like “oh, I only know how to use an apple OS he would say “go ahead” and gleefully watch as their minds blew out trying to adjust to the fact that his pc operated just like a Mac. Something else that was col was that he could flip the OS screens back and forth. Mint was the Linux system that I was most interested a while ago, but there was also Redhat, Fedora and others. Another really cool this about Linux is that it’s an open code so you can write your own OS as well. I hope to have the time to really get into the nuts and bolts of it soon.
Yup, the Team Nike disgrace was met with smiling faces by the ESPN and other mass media outlets cartel. Disgusting and disgraceful.
Wild to think that around the same time as “Bo’s backfield” tandem was running rampant, Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders were also in effect on Okie State roster. However, I think we all know which team reigns! But much respect to all the legends…….
Thurman Thomas was great – but Barry Sanders was rediculously good. He put the fear of embarassment in the mind of even exceptional defenders. He never had Bo’s speed or raw power but his shiftiness seemed to defy the laws of the human body. He juked Pro Football Hall of Famer Rod Woodson so bad in Pittsburgh he blew his knee out.
Agreed Spencer Lee, they were like the ultimate complimentary highlite phenomenon when they both graced the gridiron on Sundays. I think that Sanders and Bo shared a lot of each others strengths, a lot more than many may realize. But the casual fan just kinda files athletes into “this or that” categories…. In the Auburn fam however, there are no casual fans. Of course I also wonder about Red Grange and Jim Thorpe, precious few video artifacts of their amazing exploits.
True…all I’ve seen is grainy footage of both Grange and Thorpe. I would love to be able to pluck people of out the past and drop them into today just to see for myself what they could do.
Speaking of that I read a wonderfully crafted article on Terry Beasley in Friday’s O-A News. As epically great as Beasley was, there are young AU fans that either do not know about him or fully appreciate his greatness as an athlete and warrior. He pays a dreadful price for his time as a gladiator but there are 2 sides to that coin – Terry Beasley the player and Terry Beasley the man after football. And as profoundly sad as the latter is, the brilliance of the former was something to behold. Speaking of which, the author of that article quotes a source that stated Beasley ran a 4.2 forty. If accurate that makes him faster than Bo…..and any other football player – ever. I knew was mercurial – but 4.2? Astounding.
In other news… we have a game next month!!! On the very last day of the month, but it’s next month! I’m at Ft. Knox until early August, so that’s why I’ve been scarce for a while. Looking forward to the season starting, though. Or at least fall practice so we can know who our starting QB is going to be.
Guess I’m one day ahead of that 50 day countdown in ol Nihon here, but I am chompin at the bit. Best believe I will be back in time to kick off that there Gus era tho. Keep us up to date on the lil one Lisa!
p.s. On a completely unrelated note – is anyone game for the Marathon @ Mgy October 12? I plan on it being my first and last. I’m 45 so my best “running” days are already in the rear view mirror (barely visible at that). Would like to do this before the wheels fall off. hehehee
I am starting on this running thing too. I am not doing Montgomery, but I think I am doing one in childersburg in sept. mud run I think… Anyway, I moved to Memphis last week.. So if any auburners are in the area let me know.
Spencer, there’s no way I’ll be up for an actual Marathon by that point. And I’m running in the Army Ten Miler on the 20th of October. I’m thinking of doing the Atlanta Half on Thanksgiving. I really haven’t done any serious running since the Auburn Finish on the 50 back at the end of April. Back issues and now being at Ft Knox for a month and a half have killed my running regimine. One of the many reasons I’m looking forward to getting back to the Loveliest Village.
Thanks for the shout backs fellas. I’m half – no, make that 90% crazy for doing it, but I’m not getting any younger. I just don’t want that window to close with me sitting in the window sill.
Memphis Mac – rest assured that if I ever get to your town I’ll call you on the cell you gave me eons ago. Walt, I have a bulging disk so I get the back thing – sorry you have to deal with it too. Best wishes in Gold Bar Country. :) MCT, the scariest part of anything on Pike’s Peak is the lack of guard rails on the sides…..just don’t trip really badly near an edge. :)